March 8, 2012

Part 2 Behind the Scenes Communication: Stephenie Meyer Twilight Quilt

The Real Twi-Quilters (click the link for Part 2)

Communication up to the point of some discussions about the Jasper's Eyes photo manipulation and fabric printing.  Iris and I also talked a bit about the blog.

Elizabeth and I continue to butt heads over more than one issue.

Iris, bless her heart, tried to mediate.

Fun!

4/30/09

Elizabeth to Shannon

Hope tomorrow is a good day for you

I put together your package of fabric, but I lost a NetFlix DVD and was looking for it so I didn't make it to the post office. I may make a run over to the APC in the next town over. they have a 10:30 pm pick-up. Even if I mail it tomorrow, it should still get to you by Saturday. The fabric is all washed, so you don't have to worry about that.

Enjoy!
Elizabeth


Shannon to Elizabeth

Thanks!

Elizabeth to Shannon 

Shannon,

I know you have your method for paper piecing, so that will be just fine, however you want to send me your blocks. I'm going to recommend that the inexperienced paper piecers or those who have never done it leave their paper piecing in. I did that for my tulip and found that I really liked it. In the past, I'd always removed the paper, but found that it was much easier to match everything with the paper still in. Personal preference .

Also, I sent you a paper model of the hands with the fabric. You should get it tomorrow . I didn't include a note or anything, so I wanted to tell you that the black square does not inclued seam allowance. It is the finished size.

Thanks!
Elizabeth
     

Shannon to Elizabeth

Dear Elizabeth,

I know you are trying to be helpful as well as control the result, but I have to say that you are wearing me out.

You need to be more open and trusting to the creative process, especially mine.

We need to establish some boundaries or I am not going to be able to continue to participate.

You continue to push points like you are trying to win an argument with me. It's almost like you have to have the last word all the time.



I know you have your method for paper piecing, so that will be just fine, however you want to send me your blocks. I'm going to recommend that the inexperienced paper piecers or those who have never done it leave their paper piecing in. I did that for my tulip and found that I really liked it. In the past, I'd always removed the paper, but found that it was much easier to match everything with the paper still in. Personal preference .

Also, I sent you a paper model of the hands with the fabric. You should get it tomorrow . I didn't include a note or anything, so I wanted to tell you that the black square does not inclued seam allowance. It is the finished size. (Elizabeth)
Above isn't the first instance of this. You also pressed very hard about fabric.

I didn't just "stumble out of the quilt boat". I know how to print a pattern and I can pick out fabric. I basically gave in to you with Forbidden Fruit as far as the fabrics are concerned, but please chill out a little.

I don't want the fun to be sucked out of this project for me and others.

Respectfully,

Shannon


Iris to Shannon

I can't believe she sent you a paper model of the hands! Like you said, you didn't just stumble off the quilting boat and YOU'VE actually made that block a few times!!!! It's almost comical! I really do think she's trying to be helpful because some of the gals participating seem to be new, hesitant, unsure......

Ok, I'll PM her to chill!!!! Do it your way, I've already seen your work and it's GREAT! Shannon, just ignore Elizabeth from now on. Maybe just PM me with concerns and I'll discuss it with her?

Oh, I hope I wasn't being presumptuous on that Texas batik. I thought you said you wanted to use it but didn't want to buy a whole bunch, that's the only reason I volunteered myself to print it out for you and thought it would be a nice touch to really make it seem like she's seeing Jasper without actually using movie photo. (those are Jackson Rathbone's eyes I used) Anyway, feel free to tell me to back off if I'm butting in! I'm like Bella and like to please people, so hardly every have my feelings hurt.
I.


Elizabeth to Shannon

Shannon,

I honestly was trying to reassure you that I respect your quilting methods. "I know you have your method for paper piecing, so that will be just fine, however you want to send me your blocks." was not meant to be controlling and neither was: Also, I sent you a paper model of the hands with the fabric. I am a very visual person and so I was giving you the kind of help I might have appreciated. I thought you might like to have an actual pattern to manipulate. I'm sorry if this seems controlling to you. Perhaps it is, just a little bit. But if the center is off just a little bit then the checkerboard on the outside of the medallion won't fit. As an insufferable know-it-all, I tend to offer the kind of advice and help I wish someone would have given me in my learning process, and as I continue to learn. I sincerely apologize for stepping on your toes. I don't want you, or anyone else to drop out of the project due to personality conflicts. I think we all bring different strengths to the project and can make a better final product if we work together.

If you don't want to use the fabric that I sent, I can respect that. Mark the package as "refused, return to sender" and put it in your mailbox. I realize that the medallion was your idea, which is why I wanted to include you in it and give you the honor of doing the center block. But the medallion kind of feels like it is my baby now and is the only thing that I'm contributing, the only place where I get to exercise my creativity. I've refrained from signing up for any of the outside blocks in order to allow others to participate as much as possible. I've invested emotionally in this project, something that has been on my mind since the beginning of January. Although Iris was the first to suggest out loud that she was thinking of making a quilt for Stephenie, it was my idea. I told a few people, who were all sworn to secrecy, but I mostly kept it to myself because I didn't want someone to beat me to it and make me look like a copy cat. As soon as I started the mystery quilt, which I know for a fact was before Iris, I had the idea. I coordinated with Heather, the Mystery Quilt lady, and she was going to quilt it after I finished piecing it. I know that all of this is selfish, very selfish on my part. But I've become very emotionally entangled in the project. I'm sorry that I've been too overbearing.

Elizabeth


Elizabeth to Shannon   




I know you have your method for paper piecing, so that will be just fine, however you want to send me your blocks. I'm going to recommend that the inexperienced paper piecers or those who have never done it leave their paper piecing in. I did that for my tulip and found that I really liked it. In the past, I'd always removed the paper, but found that it was much easier to match everything with the paper still in. Personal preference .
I just wanted to clarify once more what I was saying here. I respect your methods. Do your paper piecing the best way for you. My further comments, starting with "I'm going to recommend . . . " was to let you know that I planned to put that up on the thread, but that I am aware of how you prefer to do things and want to give you your space.

I also want to clarify that the paper model of the forbidden fruit may not be what you think it is. I did not print off the pattern for you. I just sent you the center of my paper mock-up for a size reference.

Again, I'm very sorry for stepping on your toes.
Elizabeth


Iris to Shannon

 Originally Posted by shannon17




Dear Iris,

I'm only replying to you right now because I need to chill out.

I'm really tired of the drama. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble backing off. Then again, I do a little. I hate being bossed around for one. I also almost always give in under pressure and then dislike myself and the other person afterwards.

I don't understand why everything has to be micro-managed? Those that have needed help, including myself, have asked for it. We are all adults and people with some quilting experience. We should be able to voice our opinions. Did I miss a rule that dictated construction methods, etc? I may have so please tell me if I did?
Hahaha....she did layout alot of rules in the first posts (I don't remember dictating construction methods though ), and I rolled my eyes when I read it thinking "we're not kindergartners, we can figure it out!". But there are some participants that are very unsure of themselves and with little quilting experience, so I think in the end it was good that she laid it all out to begin with. But I do think she could be more tactful. She obviously has some obsessive issues! From her comments she sees this quilt as mainly "her baby" and so is having a hard time sharing it. (Though it's funny that you were the first one to mention a group project, and the whole medallion concept, and I was the first one to admit I wanted to do a quilt for Stephenie) Then she seems to change her mind and compromise, but doesn't know how to just let it go completely.

But I think overall she will do a great job managing it all, making sure everyone follows through, and getting it done. You voiced concerns over projects falling apart. (you really called it on the Mystery Quilt! I can't believe Heather didn't have the whole thing planned before putting the project up for participation!) Well, with Elizabeth at "the helm" I believe this is going to be a success! She just needs to get over the fact that she offered it up as a group project and that means it's a GROUP project. We all come from different backgrounds, different levels of experience, different tastes....but I think we can all agree that because we've all been sharing our ideas, this is going to turn out more AWESOME than if we'd each done it alone. I can't believe how it keeps evolving and I see some things proposed that I wouldn't initially agree with, but when I think about it, it will make it better! Stephenie Meyer is going to love it!


Originally Posted by shannon17



Trust me, I am not a master quilter. I learn something new every day and am always open to trying new techniques. I am NOT going to use a technique that I've tried and dislike or discarded because someone else insists that it's the BEST or ONLY way to do something, though. Also, please...please be assured that I would never submit something that was constructed poorly, looked like crap, or wasn't the required size. I have too much quilting pride to do so. I would make a block 100 times to get it right for a group project if I had to. I've even remade other people's stuff and not said anything to help save face in other group projects.
Wow, that's dedication. I think you bring alot of experience to this group! Before these last few weeks I considered myself a "wannabe quilter" because I've hardly made anything even though I started 10 yrs ago, and I am always so critical and pessimistic and never completely happy with what I do. (that's my personality, ask my husband he gets tired of hearing me b**ch and moan all the time! I'm definitely a "glass half empty" person) But with this Twilight stuff, it's just all so much FUN! And I have this new found confidence as I get positive feedback. You should see me, I've got a big goofy grin all the time I'm posting on our thread! I've never had so much fun being creative and don't mind re-doing things so that they come out good. That's part of the reason why I thought it would be a great idea for you to do the Forbidden Fruit block - as I said before, you actually have worked on it already and have worked out the kinks with the design and your process. And I love your fabric choices!

Originally Posted by shannon17




I saw your offer to Photoshop the fabric and print it as a wonderful thing. I could have never have done it. I thought the eyes were so COOL! I absolutely want it and was only waiting for the final picture and was thinking of what I could send you in thanks. I was also going to selfishly ask if I could have two because I want to make my own version of this quilt. I have my sheer organza ready. (Did you know that they make printable organza like the fabric printer sheets?)
Cool. Printable organza? Maybe that would be the way to go for this project? What do you think? Do they carry that at JoAnn's? I'll have to go check it out! I'll have to see if there's a visibility problem with regular organza. I just have some from the "fancy fabrics" section of JoAnn's. I'll print you as much fabric as you want. I think I have 4 sheets left of the Printed Treasures sheets. Since we only need a small piece to fill the ball (and how fortunate it's piece #1) I can print the part you want twice on one sheet.


Originally Posted by shannon17




I would have spoken up if I didn't like it or felt you were invading my space. I did so with Elizabeth, but she refuses to acknowledge it or accept it. She says she does, but she really doesn't. I.E. fabric and paper piecing paper.

I don't know if it's wise to continue. I just feel sick inside. I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue at forum and failing miserably. 
I'm also afraid that now that I've done all this talking that my blocks are going to horrible! Murphy's Law.

The only way I think I can stay is if I don't talk at all and it's going to kill me.
Everyone else has been pretty quiet and it's turned into this huge mess.

What do you think?

Sincerely,
Shannon
I think Elizabeth just can't let it go. Even when she's really letting it go, she keeps talking about it rather than dropping it. Maybe we need a few days of not talking about it? We've already hashed alot out, I think it's time to move on from the planning stage and into the pure fun "making it" stage. I know you're having a hard time getting some patterns and fabric (any news on that?) but maybe start with the Emmett/Rose block? I can't wait to see that "irritable" grizzly! And there hasn't been any talk on that one, it's all your invention.

You should only do what you're having fun with. And do it your way. If you're sick of doing that same block, or sick of the drama with Elizabeth, feel free to change your mind. There's NO WAY anything you do is going to be horrible! (I was worried I made too big a deal about Isle Esme and no one would like how I did it. I wasn't sure about that palm tree charm but feel it fits our group quilt well.) And I brought up fabric coordination issues, but now I realize there's going to be so much variety there's no need. We'll have a wide range of fabric types, construction styles, and embellishments and it's just going to come together into a masterpiece!

BTW, here's my contact info off boards. Sometimes it's annoying to post here then wait for it to notify me.


5/1/09

Iris to Elizabeth (copied Shannon)

Originally Posted by LizzieBug



I am a very visual person and so I was giving you the kind of help I might have appreciated. I thought you might like to have an actual pattern to manipulate. I'm sorry if this seems controlling to you. Perhaps it is, just a little bit. But if the center is off just a little bit then the checkerboard on the outside of the medallion won't fit. As an insufferable know-it-all, I tend to offer the kind of advice and help I wish someone would have given me in my learning process, and as I continue to learn. I sincerely apologize for stepping on your toes. I don't want you, or anyone else to drop out of the project due to personality conflicts. I think we all bring different strengths to the project and can make a better final product if we work together.
Maybe we're overthinking things? It seems like the details have been hashed out and dimensions settled on. It's time to HAVE FUN MAKING IT. It's great to have it all planned out, something I'm not good at. (I can't believe you have a true to size mock up and everything!) but no matter what, fabric doesn't always behave the way you think it will and sometimes you get pleasantly surprised! But like I said, we've got a good plan in place. It's time to sew!

Originally Posted by LizzieBug



But the medallion kind of feels like it is my baby now and is the only thing that I'm contributing, the only place where I get to exercise my creativity. I've refrained from signing up for any of the outside blocks in order to allow others to participate as much as possible. I've invested emotionally in this project, something that has been on my mind since the beginning of January. Although Iris was the first to suggest out loud that she was thinking of making a quilt for Stephenie, it was my idea. I told a few people, who were all sworn to secrecy, but I mostly kept it to myself because I didn't want someone to beat me to it and make me look like a copy cat. As soon as I started the mystery quilt, which I know for a fact was before Iris, I had the idea. I coordinated with Heather, the Mystery Quilt lady, and she was going to quilt it after I finished piecing it. I know that all of this is selfish, very selfish on my part. But I've become very emotionally entangled in the project. I'm sorry that I've been too overbearing.

"Sworn to secrecy" "copy cat" That never occurred to me! It's a good thing we have so many talented and dedicated people on board, there's no way someone else is going to "beat us" in either time or originality of design. I'm sure there many of us and others have thought about making a Twilight quilt and possibly sending it to SM, but we've really got some momentum going on....Something special. I think we can all agree that because we've all been bouncing ideas off each other, sharing our individual designs and talents, and our little coven has grown, that this quilt has evolved into something AMAZING. Better than what we would have come up with on our own. (At least, certainly better than what I originally had planned if I'd done it on my own.) And it's great that we're all taking different elements out of it for our individual ones. I think we have "the best of both worlds" situation going on! I can't wait to see as the designs start coming in! I'm jealous Elizabeth that you're going to be one of only a few that get to actually "touch" the whole thing! (unless we can arrange a group get together )

So less talk, more sewing!!!!

P.S. Doesn't seem like anyone's jumping up to snatch the Broken Heart and Howling Wolf, would you like to do some Elizabeth? I like your interpretation of the "two Jacobs".


Elizabeth to Iris (copied Shannon)





Doesn't seem like anyone's jumping up to snatch the Broken Heart and Howling Wolf, would you like to do some Elizabeth? I like your interpretation of the "two Jacobs". (Iris)
I feel like I'm being really selfish, doing the tulips, ribbon and chess board of the medallion, plus putting it all together, although at the same time I'd really like to do it all . I'd like to leave those for someone else to do.     



Iris to Elizabeth (copied Shannon)

Originally Posted by LizzieBug



But the medallion kind of feels like it is my baby now and is the only thing that I'm contributing, the only place where I get to exercise my creativity. I've refrained from signing up for any of the outside blocks in order to allow others to participate as much as possible. I've invested emotionally in this project, something that has been on my mind since the beginning of January. Although Iris was the first to suggest out loud that she was thinking of making a quilt for Stephenie, it was my idea. I told a few people, who were all sworn to secrecy, but I mostly kept it to myself because I didn't want someone to beat me to it and make me look like a copy cat. As soon as I started the mystery quilt, which I know for a fact was before Iris, I had the idea. I coordinated with Heather, the Mystery Quilt lady, and she was going to quilt it after I finished piecing it. I know that all of this is selfish, very selfish on my part. But I've become very emotionally entangled in the project. I'm sorry that I've been too overbearing.

Elizabeth


Elizabeth, I too feel emotionally entangled in this project. Why do you think I kept asking for more blocks? It's become all consuming. (I've certainly been neglecting "real life" for it) But I've respect that it's become a group project and while I want SM to be impressed by my work in particular, I'm just going to do my best with my parts and be proud of my contribution. And in a way it's nice not having to do everything.....there's just so much to do! It would take me a long time to do it all. Plus I still get to do my individual one. And I'm very proud of all the ideas we've come up with as a group and how the quilt has evolved into a wonderful collaboration.

I hope you don't start "resenting" opening this up as a group project. You still get to do the most, and especially, you get to see the end result in person. You lucky bum, you get to "touch" it!!! Anyway, it's been wonderful getting to know all you guys little by little and seeing everyone's great works, and I hope we can really become a long-term quilt group, participating in many more individual and group projects and exchanges. I always wanted to be part of a quilt group, but who wants to join a guild and try to find other people to hook up with? This is a dream come true for me.


Iris to Elizabeth (copied Shannon)

Originally Posted by LizzieBug




Doesn't seem like anyone's jumping up to snatch the Broken Heart and Howling Wolf, would you like to do some Elizabeth? I like your interpretation of the "two Jacobs". (Iris)


I feel like I'm being really selfish, doing the tulips, ribbon and chess board of the medallion, plus putting it all together, although at the same time I'd really like to do it all . I'd like to leave those for someone else to do.
Stop this nonsense talk of selfish. We are all just too excited and want to do it all! Is anyone left that doesn't have any block, or only one? Who can we offer them to?


Iris to Shannon
Are you still avoiding your PMs? I sent you an email to "frecklesquilts@yahoo.com ". It's from "whimsyfox@gmail.com "

I.

Iris to Shannon   
Originally Posted by shannon17



Dear Iris,



The trouble with the internet is that you can't properly express how gleeful you are over something. If only I had a webcam, and you could see me. I am jumping up and down right now over these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I did get them open when I remembered I could save and then open using whatever software I wanted. Yeah, I'm slow...I eventually get it!


My favorite is the black and white and the one next to it? Question, have you tried Sepia? I was going to try to print your originals in that tone at my dad's yesterday, but he was having home repair issues and I didn't want to bug him. In answer to your question from the other day, I saw the printable organza at a my new quiltshop down the street. I've not seen it at JoAnn's. It was $13.99 for 5 sheets and not in my budget for awhile. (One of these days I am going to make some homeade bubble jet and print on whatever fabric I want....)
Oh good. *jumping up & down in seat* The B & W actually looks the best under the organza. The lighter blue/red looks good too, but his eyes look red, and I really like the idea of amber. I'm going to try lightening it too, so the details show up. Haven't tried sepia. I'm looking for how to do it in photoshop elements, I'll let you know if I'm successful!
Originally Posted by shannon17



Did you get my PM about the FB block and my questions about size. I hope it wasn't lost! (operator error)
No, I didn't. Was that today or yesterday?

Originally Posted by shannon17
Okay,....Twilight Quilters Coven. I don't remember who first suggested a coven, but I headed over to Blogger and reserved the name. I had thought to either have it be my own and so I used "Quilter's" or pick a group of people with equal access to password to be able to do their own posts. I thought it would be a place to post Twilight-related quilting activities and would grow with input and ideas of others. I set up twilightquilterscoven@gmail.com   I haven't done anything with it since.

Shannon

Heheheh.....great minds think alike! Though you have the advantage of already being a blogger & knowing what you're doing! I'm gonna get "blogging for dummies" (I actually think those "dummies" books are very informative) and start reading up! So you think we could co-admin?

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